I agree umbertoecho . I think Mr. Stewart was laying a foundation to show how views have changed over the years ,and that this could be applied to the topic at hand .
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The Royal Commission and Watchtower - A game changer
by Hidden-Window ini had finished watching all the videos on the royal commission's investigation of jehovah's witnesses (yes, i know more videos are being released).
i am still processing the information of everything that has emerged.
i do not plan to cover it all here, but i would like to point out that it is patently obvious that some of the wt representatives provided misleading information.
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Phone call straight after the Royal Commission
by umbertoecho instraight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.
it was one of the people who are working on it.
firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.
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Thank you for the update Umbertoecho !
It is good to hear you are being treated so kindly .
It is reassuring to know the commission is so well informed ,and able to see through the lies.
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GeeJay at the RC: highlights, paraphrases and translations.
by sparrowdown inq: is there anyone that has the permanent role of coordinator or chairman?.
geejay: no, we rotate yearly...... (translaton) we are all sparticus.. geejay: we are a faith driven org, we are not a group of lawyers, being overly concerned with legal matters..... fave quotes .
on establishing headship principle 1cor 14: 33-35, 1 cor 11:3. geejay:...... that's talking about women not excitedly jumping up arguing with others..... geejay: ......our literature has said it, and we agree!.
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Did anyone else noticed at the very beginning of the testimony Mr. Stewart highlighted the fact that Jackson left formal education at a very young age ,15, I believe ? Was this a precursor to make you wonder how someone of such minimal education became a translator and head over a religious organization ? It just struck a cord with me .... -
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GEOFFREY JACKSON TO APPEAR BEFORE ROYAL COMMISSION ON FRIDAY 14TH August!!!
by defender of truth inthe royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. .
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www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2015-08/public-hearing-into-the-jehovah%e2%80%99s-witnesses-to-rec.
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troubled mind
Yes Morpheus the 'gotcha' moment came after they broke for lunch ! That is how Mr.Stewart works ,he paves the way and leads you down the road then BAM starts making his points .
Mr Jackson flat out lied in the second half of the hearing .
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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!
by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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And BOOM microphone down ,we are done . Boy everyone in America that went to bed early missed the best part ,thankgoodness for youtube !! LOL Well I am off to bed now too . -
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Geoffrey Jackson Royal Commission update
by umbertoecho inhello people.
the rc will still go ahead with it's live stream on friday 14th august.
however, it seem that it will be a video link.
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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Oh My he is lying now !
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Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commission Live Hearing Now!
by LostinJapan in.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
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troubled mind
I love to watch Angus maneuver the testimony ....he gets them right where he wants them . This Jackson at least is not as dumb as the other Elders appeared. I did notice several times him getting a bit smug ,but not by the end by then he was realizing this commission will be no push over . -
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Exposing one's identity. When?
by kairos ini've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.
( "reaching out", so to speak ).
i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.
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troubled mind
Kairos ,
A cease and desist letter is different than a restraining order . In the USA a restraining order has to go through a Judge in court . You have to testify before a Judge and there must be proof of threatening behavior .
Here is what worked for me : A cease and desist letter is much more simple ,and in this case usually just as effective . My local Police even suggested it to me . The Officer I spoke to told me to make a copy of my letter ,and to file it with them . He also said to send the letter to the Elders ,and send it certified . After they received notice if they made any more contact to report it back to the Police station ,which I did, and they would explain what cease and desist means to the Elders ,(which they did). It helps to include in the letter that you are sending it per legal advice .He explained it really does not hold that much legal weight when it comes down to it ,but in this case it is usually enough to make them stop annoying you .
I live in a small town ,and that may be why the Police were so helpful . If you don't get the same kind of help ,you may want to consider using your own personal lawyer to help draft a letter . All I know is that after I sent my letter the harassment stopped ,which is all I ever wanted ....to be left alone in peace . I have no idea what has been said to others at the hall ,and I do not care . Most Witnesses shun me in public ,but a few still say Hi once in a while .
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Exposing one's identity. When?
by kairos ini've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.
( "reaching out", so to speak ).
i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.
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troubled mind
Deep breaths ,count to ten ......relax . Please I am worried for you ,and your wife that this stress is going to affect your health !
I am glad your wife is seeking therapy ....can you go with her also as in couples therapy ? This would be good so that you can get to the heart of the problem ...the religious negative control in your lives.
Don't let the Elders to continue to harass you . If you have faded for two years ,and have no desire to return to the Kingdom Hall,then you no longer have anything left to discuss with them ...so don't . Do not let them suck anymore life or energy from you . The next call firmly tell then NO MORE CONTACT !
Your wife will have to come to her own conclusions .For your part focus on making your marriage priority ,she may be under the impression that with out religious unity it is doomed to fail ....this is just not true ! Just one more fallacy the JW org.promotes to keep members under their thumb and in fear.
May I suggest :
Try sending a certified cease ,and desist letter to the Kingdom Hall .Keep it short and to the point . You feel they are ignoring your request to be left alone ,and this is unacceptable .State what you want .No more calls ect. Then make a copy for the local police station and file it with them (Make sure the Elders know this ) It also helps to state in the letter that you are writing this under the advice of legal counsel.
Knowing they can not call or show up unannounced at your door can give you a world of peace .I hope the best for you and your wife .